Comments on: Supercapacitor banks for energy storage https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/ Electronics Design & Components Tech News Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:16:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/wp-content/themes/ew/images/logo.gif Electronics Weekly https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/ 125 75 Electronics Design & Components Tech News By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452673 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:16:03 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452673 In reply to Mike Bryant.

Another application to add to the mental list – must be a huge bank to absorb all those Joules
…pauses to search….
17.9kWh according to this paper (https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55049866.pdf), which glanced through and (I might have misunderstood) seems to equate to 29tonnes of capacitors

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By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452668 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:55:33 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452668 In reply to Benjamin.

Thanks Benjamin.
That made me try a little harder, and this paper (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352152X2031940X, available in full) has this list of fuel cell + supercapacitor cars:
Honda FCX, Honda FCX Clarity, Honda Clarity Fuel Cell, Toyota FCHV-adv, Toyota Mirai and Hyundai NEXO.
So maybe it is fair to say that, so far, no mainstream electric cars have supercapacitors?

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By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452657 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:24:57 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452657 In reply to Mike Bryant.

Morning Mike
MT3608, I have not seen that before – 2A boosting from such a little chip.
Mine used one of those little Zetex (now Diodes) boost converters (maybe a ZXSC310) which drained the capacitor right down to 800mV – what a neat chip, if unregulated.

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By: Mike Bryant https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452524 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:08:44 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452524 In reply to Steve Bush.

I used them to shut down a Pi CM4 without corrupting memory. With a MT3608 boost convertor you can just drag enough energy out of a pair of them.

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By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452442 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 16:49:23 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452442 In reply to Mike Bryant.

Thanks Mike
It is nice to hear that they are being designed in.
I made a bike light years ago with one – it is still working 🙂

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By: Mike Bryant https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452428 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 16:03:09 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452428 In reply to Steve Bush.

The Hong Kong Metro and some other Chinese lines use supercapacitors to store all the braking energy going into a station, then accelerating away again.

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By: Benjamin https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452421 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:28:31 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452421 In reply to Steve Bush.

The article I saw it in originally:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/what-is-supercapacitor-battery-ev-and-hybrid/
I think this paper mentions it too but I can’t access it:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0313592618301371

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By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452403 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:29:53 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452403 In reply to Benjamin.

Found it – Lamborghini Sian indeed – claiming that it is the first – and it does not appear to have a traction battery, just supercapacitors for brief 25kW boost, according to WhichCar here: https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/lamborghini-sian-supercapacitor-explained

Thanks Bejamin

BTW, Struggling to find a Toyota FCHV supercapacitor reference – any ideas?

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By: Steve Bush https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452395 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:57:46 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452395 In reply to Benjamin.

Thanks Benjamin
I stand corrected, and will take a look at these vehicles.

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By: Benjamin https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/passives-products/supercapacitor-banks-for-energy-storage-2023-08/#comment-1452393 Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:56:11 +0000 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/?p=825471#comment-1452393 I think a few hybrid cars are doing this. The Toyota FCHV hydrogen hybrid uses them and the Lambo Sián does too. Not sure if any EVs are being made with all supercapacitors but I think we may see a combo system soon.

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